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May 25th, 2007
12:57 pm


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Pregnant winos
Okay, the wine-during-pregnancy row has reached new heights of ridiculousness... "they" (whoever "they" are) are now recommending that women do not drink at all during pregnancy or when attempting to conceive. (As to the latter, drinking during conception could be tricky for some.)

Two things: one, who's going to break it to French women that they can't have a glass of red wine with dinner? the same poor f&*%er who had to tell them they can't eat unpasturised cheeses for nine months?

And two, what about all of us of my generation whose mothers drank in moderation, and we're all absolutely fine? Many clinicians say the evidence that moderate drinking harms unborn children is "sketchy". Quite.

It's the same old bollocks: "The People" are too stupid to understand the meaning of the term "moderation", in the eyes of many, and so advice to drink in moderation is not strong enough for those few morons who binge drink during pregnancy and end up with [more morons] who suffer from Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.


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Date:May 25th, 2007 09:03 pm (UTC)


Fetal alcohol syndrome is only a small piece of the story. Quite a bit of evidence shows moderate alcohol consumption during pregnancy (1 drink a day or less) is linked to long-term developmental problems. Rates of fetal alcohol spectrum disorders are actually much higher in countries with greater per captia alcohol consumption (Russia, Italy, France...).

The time a developing fetus is most susceptible to the effects of alcohol is during the first 3 weeks after conception, before most women realize they're pregnant. It's unfortunate that so many physicians are ignorant about the effects of moderate alcohol consumption by pregnant women, but that's no excuse to propagate the myth that alcohol is harmless.
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Date:May 25th, 2007 10:31 pm (UTC)

Re: actually...

However, if what you say is accurate (and I have heard it said before that the first three weeks are the vulnerable period for the fetus, to alcohol), then why doesn't the advice given reflect this? Why not advise mothers-to-be not to drink when trying to conceive, and then say, but it's okay to have ONE glass of wine ONE time a week during the rest of your pregnancy? and if you're female don't binge drink EVER whether or not you're pregnant because it f&*ks your liver and increases your chances of developing cancer?

It's the *hysteria* that annoys me. And I repeat, we do NOT have generations and generations of damaged people whose mothers drank moderately during pregnancy; instead we have generations and generations of mostly pretty average people whose mothers drank moderately during pregnancy.
Date:May 28th, 2007 04:02 pm (UTC)

Re: actually...

Actually, I am a scientist who studies alcohol consumption in the population and I have not found any evidence for your claim of developmental problems with <1 drink a day.

Can you please provide a scientific citation for your claim or retract it?

There is no question that FAS is higher in countries with higher alcohol consumption, but there is no evidence that this is due to individuals with moderate drinking behaviors.
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